Comments on: New Design – Enavu Network http://web.enavu.com/tutorials/new-design-enavu-network/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:51:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Brampton Web Design http://web.enavu.com/tutorials/new-design-enavu-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1769 Brampton Web Design Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:05:52 +0000 http://blog.webdevmania.com/?p=412#comment-1769 <p>Excellent article, these should really be adapted especially with regards to monitor sizes. There are still developers who forget about this basic rule “Don’t forget that your website will be viewed by all types of monitor sizes”. </p> Excellent article, these should really be adapted especially with regards to monitor sizes. There are still developers who forget about this basic rule “Don’t forget that your website will be viewed by all types of monitor sizes”.

]]> By: SMiGL http://web.enavu.com/tutorials/new-design-enavu-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1768 SMiGL Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:27:35 +0000 http://blog.webdevmania.com/?p=412#comment-1768 <p>Nice post. </p> Nice post.

]]> By: Jurre Smit http://web.enavu.com/tutorials/new-design-enavu-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1767 Jurre Smit Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:11:50 +0000 http://blog.webdevmania.com/?p=412#comment-1767 <p>Really? Seriously? These are the dont’s for webdevelopment? It is 2010 people! We had this discussion 10 years ago…</p> <p>Everyone will agree with you and the clearfix is outdated… This is an open door! We have been here! Talk about something new… </p> Really? Seriously? These are the dont’s for webdevelopment? It is 2010 people! We had this discussion 10 years ago…

Everyone will agree with you and the clearfix is outdated… This is an open door! We have been here! Talk about something new…

]]> By: schmackLab http://web.enavu.com/tutorials/new-design-enavu-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1766 schmackLab Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:28:32 +0000 http://blog.webdevmania.com/?p=412#comment-1766 <p>@Phil<br /> I highly reccommend reading this book by Dan Cederholm. It has an entire chapter on Tables that uses them in many different ways and lists the pluses and minuses of each method. Like you I always have to know why I’m doing something. This book gives you all the reasons why and thus the ability to make an educated decision based on your current project and circumstances as to what the best method is. </p> <p>As far as a reason one of the better ones is that tables make it very difficult for screenreaders, handheld devices and computers that do not allow css to view your page properly.</p> <p>Using standards helps to bullet proof your site and isn’t just a way to make you look good to the few people out there who like to view source.</p> <p>The book on amazon:<br /> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1430219203/ref=ox_ya_oh_product" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1430219203/ref=ox_ya_oh_product</a> </p> @Phil
I highly reccommend reading this book by Dan Cederholm. It has an entire chapter on Tables that uses them in many different ways and lists the pluses and minuses of each method. Like you I always have to know why I’m doing something. This book gives you all the reasons why and thus the ability to make an educated decision based on your current project and circumstances as to what the best method is.

As far as a reason one of the better ones is that tables make it very difficult for screenreaders, handheld devices and computers that do not allow css to view your page properly.

Using standards helps to bullet proof your site and isn’t just a way to make you look good to the few people out there who like to view source.

The book on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1430219203/ref=ox_ya_oh_product

]]> By: Chuck Spidell http://web.enavu.com/tutorials/new-design-enavu-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1765 Chuck Spidell Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:27:09 +0000 http://blog.webdevmania.com/?p=412#comment-1765 <p>Don’t forget that you can absolutely position elements in a relatively positioned element. </p> Don’t forget that you can absolutely position elements in a relatively positioned element.

]]> By: Phil http://web.enavu.com/tutorials/new-design-enavu-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1764 Phil Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:16:12 +0000 http://blog.webdevmania.com/?p=412#comment-1764 <p>Being devil’s advocate her for a minute - you mention don’t use tables or absolute positioning without really explaining why not (in fact you say you wont go into why not use AP Divs). I did a little survey with my students on SEO and table-based websites came top of Google as well as CSS-based. Google doesn’t differentiate and for some new web developers tables are a lot easier to understand that CSS. I know CSS is more semantic but every time I hear the words ‘don’t use tables’ it’s without any really solid reasoning and seems to be going with the crowd. Table-based websites show up in browsers, are accessible, are Google-friendly, and until someone comes up with a REALLY interesting reason as to why not to use tables I’m not sure I should go to the fairly intensive exercise of trying to understand the intricacies of CSS. </p> Being devil’s advocate her for a minute – you mention don’t use tables or absolute positioning without really explaining why not (in fact you say you wont go into why not use AP Divs). I did a little survey with my students on SEO and table-based websites came top of Google as well as CSS-based. Google doesn’t differentiate and for some new web developers tables are a lot easier to understand that CSS. I know CSS is more semantic but every time I hear the words ‘don’t use tables’ it’s without any really solid reasoning and seems to be going with the crowd. Table-based websites show up in browsers, are accessible, are Google-friendly, and until someone comes up with a REALLY interesting reason as to why not to use tables I’m not sure I should go to the fairly intensive exercise of trying to understand the intricacies of CSS.

]]> By: Chris http://web.enavu.com/tutorials/new-design-enavu-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1763 Chris Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:53:40 +0000 http://blog.webdevmania.com/?p=412#comment-1763 <p>Just more on the .clearfix thing, if you look at the Position Is Everything post where it comes from <a href="http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html</a> you’ll see they even tell you that the information is out of date and link to a Sitepoint article which uses overflow:auto <a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/</a> </p> Just more on the .clearfix thing, if you look at the Position Is Everything post where it comes from http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html you’ll see they even tell you that the information is out of date and link to a Sitepoint article which uses overflow:auto http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/02/26/simple-clearing-of-floats/

]]> By: Chris http://web.enavu.com/tutorials/new-design-enavu-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1762 Chris Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:55:21 +0000 http://blog.webdevmania.com/?p=412#comment-1762 <p>.clearfix is a hack. Just use overflow:hidden. It’s much much simpler and it works. I am constantly amazed that so few people know about it.</p> <p>Also what’s with the dates in these comments? They’re all the 31th (?) of January. </p> .clearfix is a hack. Just use overflow:hidden. It’s much much simpler and it works. I am constantly amazed that so few people know about it.

Also what’s with the dates in these comments? They’re all the 31th (?) of January.

]]> By: Bruce http://web.enavu.com/tutorials/new-design-enavu-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1761 Bruce Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:52:26 +0000 http://blog.webdevmania.com/?p=412#comment-1761 <p>Re #1, the clear attribute is deprecated.<br /> <a href="http://reference.sitepoint.com/html/br/clear" rel="nofollow">http://reference.sitepoint.com/html/br/clear</a> </p> Re #1, the clear attribute is deprecated.
http://reference.sitepoint.com/html/br/clear

]]> By: purpler http://web.enavu.com/tutorials/new-design-enavu-network/comment-page-1/#comment-1760 purpler Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:09:44 +0000 http://blog.webdevmania.com/?p=412#comment-1760 <p><quote><br /> /* Clear Fix */<br /> .clearfix:after {<br /> content:”.”;<br /> display:block;<br /> height:0;<br /> clear:both;<br /> visibility:hidden;<br /> }</p> <p>* html .clearfix {height:1%;}<br /> </quote></p> <p>.clearfix has proven its strength and usability in various scenarios and its highly recommended by bunch of web masters and should be taken as a standard.<br /> my 0.02$ </p> <quote>
/* Clear Fix */
.clearfix:after {
content:”.”;
display:block;
height:0;
clear:both;
visibility:hidden;
}

* html .clearfix {height:1%;}
</quote>

.clearfix has proven its strength and usability in various scenarios and its highly recommended by bunch of web masters and should be taken as a standard.
my 0.02$

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